Fresh off his appearance on Real Estate Riches with Kathy Byrnes, Beverly Hills broker Matias Baker Masucci sat down for a rapid-fire conversation about the playbook behind his growth: AI, social proof, and precision targeting. What follows is a tight, no-fluff Q&A packed with tactics you can use today.
Kathy: For readers who don’t know you, give us the 15-second version.
Matias: I’m a Beverly Hills–based broker serving Los Angeles County. I started at the very bottom as a resident manager, learned the business the hard way, and built an operation that runs on systems. I sell, my team executes, and everything is measured.
Kathy: Everyone talks about “systems.” What does that actually look like day to day?
Matias: Trello runs our projects. We have listing and buyer workflows with roughly 200 discrete marketing actions that escalate week by week. Week one primes distribution. Week two repurposes and expands. By week eight, we’ve delivered the impressions required to convert. If a property sells in week one, great. If not, the system compounds reach without guesswork. And the great thing about this system is that it builds upon itself. So week nine, essentially, it grows exponentially and so forth. Now, to tell you the truth, most of our listings sell relatively fast, no matter what the market conditions are. But for those that need a little bit more attention, the system never stops until we get results. And I’m never going to be tired of repeating this: it’s not the market, it’s the marketing. When people complain about their home not selling or whatever, it’s not the market, it’s the marketing.
It’s not the market, it’s the marketing. Agents need to stop blaming the market, because we can’t control it. What we can do is adapt, stay accountable, and strive to deliver consistent results in any environment.
Kathy: You say real estate marketing is stuck in the ’90s. What’s the modern alternative?
Matias: Passive marketing is photos, MLS, an open house, and a prayer. Active marketing is precision targeting:
- Build a buyer profile for the asset.
- Source lists that match the profile. Example, for a downsizer-friendly condo, pull public records for owners with 40+ years tenure.
- Hit those audiences with coordinated creative across Google, Meta, YouTube, email, and direct outreach.
- Track KPI ladders. In today’s market, I plan on touching ~100,000 people to generate one listing conversion. Different assets have different thresholds, but the math is the math.
Kathy: What role does AI play in your engine?
Matias: Three big ones.
- Repurposing at scale. I record about one hour a week. AI slices that into shorts, quotes, captions, and thumbnails.
- Search visibility via social proof. Press releases, reviews, and platform consistency help AI search understand who you are. When someone asks an AI for “top Beverly Hills agent,” you want credible artifacts it can find.
- Ops acceleration. We maintain template libraries for client updates, status emails, and checklists. AI drafts. We edit. Speed without sloppiness.
Kathy: Social proof feels noisy. What actually moves the needle?
Matias: Authenticity plus evidence. Keep client testimonials, case studies, and before-after marketing samples easy to find. Post real work and a little real life. People Google you the second they meet you. Give them reasons to trust and to call.
Kathy: Give us one precision-targeting example any agent can try.
Matias: Selling a high HOA, low-maintenance condo?
- Profile likely buyers: long-tenured homeowners within a defined radius who are ready to downsize.
- Build a list from public records.
- Coordinate messaging that solves their pain: maintenance, stairs, yard work, travel flexibility.
- Retarget site visitors and video viewers until they convert to showings.
It’s not magic. It’s message-to-market match, measured.
Kathy: What metrics matter most in your system?
Matias: A short stack:
- Top-of-funnel reach: impressions to reach the asset’s conversion threshold.
- Click-through and video completion: are we earning attention.
- Inquiry to appointment ratio and appointment to offer ratio: where friction lives.
- Days on market vs exposure delivered: are we under-marketing or mis-messaging.
Kathy: You advocate building a business you could sell, even if you never will. Why?
Matias: It forces documentation, delegation, and predictability. Most agents own a phone and a CRM. That’s not a business. A sellable operation runs on roles, SOPs, and dashboards. The side effect is freedom. You can step away and the work still happens.
Kathy: Team structure for agents who want to scale without becoming a 50-agent zoo?
Matias: Core three:
- Full-time assistant to run the board.
- Part-time marketing pro to handle creative, posting, and paid distribution.
- Showing agent or buyer agent once volume justifies it.
Your job becomes rainmaking and quarterbacking. Meet, price, negotiate, and review the numbers. Let specialists execute.
Kathy: Favorite fast wins with AI for agents who feel behind?
Matias:
- Content sprint: Record a 10-minute market take. Use AI to cut 5 shorts, 10 quotes, 1 blog. Ship in 48 hours.
- Review gravity: Ask past clients for Google reviews and feed highlights into marketing releases and your website.
- Template vault: Build 20 client update emails using AI, then personalize. Saves hours every week.
Kathy: Final advice to agents who want to thrive in today’s market?
Matias:
- Fall in love with the craft. Curiosity compounds.
- Be measurable. If you can’t count it, you can’t scale it.
- Be distinctive. Don’t be the “neighborhood agent” if your strategy is national-caliber marketing.
Act like media. Publish value, earn trust, and distribute it with precision. The listings follow.
This conversation shows how the business of real estate is shifting: away from guesswork and toward systems, data, and adaptability. Marketing, not market conditions, is what drives outcomes—and the agents who embrace structure, technology, and measurable strategies will be the ones who continue to thrive no matter what the cycle brings.